"Adrian Ross Duncan describes the tremendous need inside the Moon/Saturn person. When they finally decide that it’s safe to unlock Saturn’s iron cage, a clingy, vulnerable person jumps out. Suddenly, they demand constant reassurance. They appear to need (Moon) more support than anyone can provide. If the Moon/Saturn person receives a whiff of hesitation from their partner, they will interpret this as rejection. The cage door slams shut, and the Moon/Saturn person abruptly withdraws, becoming Mr. or Mrs. Cool once again."
Oh lord, this describes me and my mother in a nutshell.
"I have concern when I see both the Moon and Venus beat up in a man’s chart. My number one rule is to run with men who like women and when I see this stuff in a man’s chart, I am very, very careful."
Good point. Never date a heterosexual who hates women. I have a cousin like this (if I remembered his birthday I'd be checking this now) and I feel very sorry for the women he's dated/been engaged to/married.
Then again, I have those beat up in my chart and I don't hate women...I just don't fit with traditional women's behaviors.
"I had a new Venus square Saturn thought the other day as I was reading a list of what Saturn rules and Saturn rules beggars among many other things and I thought: AHA! Venus Saturn must beg for love. Like the dog she (or he) is
Begging leads one to embarrassment which leads one to shame which leads one to… well, it just goes on and on. Rejection, self-loathing."
I would not argue with this. Asking = embarrassment = rejection = shame that you even asked in the first place. This is why I don't flirt or show any interest in a guy whatsoever on the extremely rare occasions that I have any. I will ignore him entirely if he doesn't show interest on his own these days. I have been completely repulsed by certain people having interest in me in that way at times, I am aware that I am not most people's cup of tea, and I don't want to make anyone else have that feeling of UGH OH GOD NOT YOU WHY IS THE BIGGEST CREEP IN THE ROOM THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKEY-LIKES ME, about me. God, no.
Don't get me wrong, way back in the dark ages when I used to date, even the blind chicken picked up a grain of corn now and then. But they're gonna have to go first about it. Which most dudes will do regardless of your interest anyway, right?
I was listening to Janelle Monae's "Many Moons" the other day and the above lyrics popped into my head while reading this post. I then went and looked up her birthday (wow, that girl is really super-Sag-stellium), and she has a Venus/Saturn conjunction. I got all smug at myself for pinning that down...then I looked at the actual lyrics and they are "Are you bold enough to reach for love."
I'm not particularly Neptunian. Aquarius is in my fourth house and only has an asteroid in there, so I haven't had any planets getting kicked by it directly for a long while. Venus was getting squared by it, but since I have no love life...well, hm.
Neptune will also square planets between 0-4 degrees Sagittarius. This transit will challenge what you believe by expanding your urge for exploration in relationships. This could mean a time of wandering without a map in new relationship territory. It could also be your Dark Night of the Soul. Watch that the search for meaning doesn’t get you tangled up with a partner who takes advantage of you.
If your Sun is in Sagittarius, your ego is healthy and your will is focused on the future. You see no reason why a relationship can’t work out. If you’re single, it’s okay because you’ll meet someone when it’s meant to happen. Neptune’s square can undermine this fiery energy. You may find yourself questioning what you bring to a relationship and how special you really are. When faith in yourself vanishes, where do you look?
For many Sagittarians, this could be the first time without your optimism to keep you warm. The ensuing search might make you do some interesting things. Potential romantic partners who come into your life during this time should be viewed as experiments, not saviors. Your faith hasn’t gone anywhere, you’ll just be questioning it. This is what will make it stronger and turn you into a more empathetic partner.
For any sign, the rule of thumb during a hard Neptune transit is to hold off on new romantic commitments until the influence is over (although of course there are exceptions to every rule). Neptune’s influence on planets between 0-4 degrees will continue (roughly) until early 2014. Many people wake up after these transits and wonder what they ever saw in their Dream Lover. Some are fortunate enough to experience a capital “R” romance that is positive and healing. Everyone who goes through this transit will be gifted with the opportunity to transcend their relationship limits.
You know what annoys me? It's like there is constantly some "omg awful, please wait until that transit is over to find love" thing going on with me, one right after the other right after the other. This will probably surprise no one, but it gets fucking old. I especially loved (not) a Vedic astrology reading I got once saying "don't even bother until your late 40's."
It's a good thing 50% of me wants to stay single, because apparently I'd just lose if I tried otherwise.
"* Look to the house with Taurus on the Cusp and note how you HAVE done pretty damn well there. Congratulate yourself and know that area of life is going to get even better by May 2012.
* Check the bit of your chart with late Libra, where Saturn lurks and do something rigid, linear and planned there. Instant angst relief.
* Where you have early Aries, cut yourself a LOT of slack. Don’t try to be ‘straight’ in this regard. Individuate. Grok that the irritation/slo-mo sensation now is actually your helpful omen as to where/how you want to be. It speeds up real soon."