I never paid attention to this case, but this is an interesting nodal discussion of Amanda Knox.
(I'm going to get in trouble eventually for posting this one, but what the hell.)
If you want to look at the effects of Saturn in Libra, you should perhaps check out the chart of someone with a lot of it. For example, John Mayer, a dude known for his mouth in uh...more ways than one. He basically pissed off the entire Internet in various ways through 2009-10-ish or so. And then... well, I give the dude a lot of credit for (a) realizing he made an ass of himself, (b) apologizing, a lot, and then (c) shutting his stupid mouth--so to speak. Dude has pretty much disappeared for the most part since his last concert tour ended, quitting Twitter, rarely blogging on his actual writing blog, deleting posts after he makes them--though in the age of Tumblr reblogging, I kind of don't see the point of that bit when it lives on anyway. At any rate, he isn't giving anyone any fuel to put on the fire these days. He's been just quietly working on an album, and adding on to Tony Bennett's. To which I say, good for him. Lord knows I miss his online snark (frankly, he and YourAuntDiane are the only Twitter accounts I ever found consistently funny, and that's speaking as a Twitter-hater), but I think given the massive shitstorm that went on, he needed to go into seclusion to get people to calm the hell down. Probably a good idea to go sort out his shit, too.
Do you guys realize how rare it is for someone to make a major fuckup and then do their best to correct their behavior? Look at Chris Brown, for example, who really isn't doing that at all. Speaking of, I have been reading Pride and Prejudice and Zombies today. Yes, that sounds like it's wandering off topic, but it reminded me of a thought I've always had about P&P (-Z): the reason that chicks are sooooooo obsessed with Mr. Darcy is that he's a guy who comes off as an ass, then APOLOGIZES for it, then makes amends.* For all of those girls who like the Reformed Rakes, or Bad Guys Gone Good For The Love Of A Girl, Mr. Darcy is the Regency version of that. And as all ladies will learn outside of books, finding a dude who will apologize and improve is really rare. Well, there you go: here's one in real life.
What does this have to do with astrology? Well, the dude has a lot of planets in Libra from about 15 degrees (Pluto/NN, Sun, Mercury) on, and if Saturn is going along conjunct all of those in turn, giving them all a kick... well, let's just say that astrologically in general, Libras are not having a fun time right now. My Libra rising friends are all having relationship drama in one way or another and that's fun times. It's probably better to be single right now than be dealing with someone else's lack of maturity.
Saturn transiting through anywhere where you're emphasized is a big kick in the pants to grow up, and I think John is doing that. Saturn transits may make you more noticed or make you want to hide, so he's gone from one extreme to the other. Ironically (and well, the reason why I'm posting this) is that he posted online today that he's got a granuloma and thus has to not do any singing engagements and postpone the album production. So at this point the silence is being chosen for him... and checking the astrology, that's just as Saturn is hitting the Pluto/NN conjunction. Hmmmm, might be a while before the album is finished there. Saturn goes out of Libra in late October 2012**, so maybe late summer/fall then? I will hope for sooner, but given where Mercury is, it might take awhile.
I don't know what his birth time is, but this makes me wonder if Libra is his third house or something. Would make sense at this point, wouldn't it?
* SPOILER: In P&P&Z, he actually uh... permanently paralyzes Wickham in a massive beating. Okay, so that's not the usual type of amends....
** Then Saturn starts kicking my ascendant... and this should start right after I plan on moving. Fun times, y'all.
So I'm a big fan of Switched At Birth, which is rather ridiculously good for a family show. People are sympathetic and mostly sensible and you feel for everybody and it's awesome. I highly recommend it (go look on Hulu, the pilot's online).
Anyway, the recent episode "The Persistence of Memory" was just plain excellent. AND it also featured one of the switched-at-birth characters finding her birth certificate. Of course, Daphne's real birth certificate is actually for Bay, so... it's Bay's birth time and information. The show has stated the two girls have the same birthday, so I'm interested in looking at their birthday. Alas, Daphne's actual birth time hasn't been mentioned yet, so I'll have to guess.
For those who haven't seen the show: Bay Kennish is a brunette teenage artist type. She's tempestuous, dabbles in getting into trouble, and seems to move quickly when it comes to men. She's the one that got raised in a wealthy family but originally came from a poorer one. She's the one whose birth time we'll be looking at. Her birthday twin, Daphne, is the strawberry blonde athletic type. She's generally sweet and more of a people pleaser than Bay, a wee bit of a showoff herself at times, and has been deaf since the age of 3. She was the one born to the rich people, but got raised by a poorer mom.
I totally guessed that Bay must be a Leo rising, and by god, she is! The drama is very obvious with her. (Plus she loves Frida Kahlo. Both she and her biological mom Regina are really into bright colors.) I'd guess Daphne is probably born around 6 a.m., making her a TRIPLE Libra. Both of them are at least double Libras (sun and moon), but Daphne is clearly the one more interested in making sure everyone gets along.
Both of them have a lot of planets in Libra, with a Libra Moon/Chiron conjunction. That says "mommy issues and pain" like nothing else, which totally fits with the swappage. They both have Sun conjunct their Libra North Nodes, which I think bodes well for them learning Libra issues of partnership and cooperation. Certainly both of them pick up love interests left and right and are very attractive girls! Passionate too with Venus in Scorpio. They also have a Mars/Pluto conjunction, which I find kind of nervewracking. That does tend to bring on... well, physical accidents, maybe being a bit of an anger/violence magnet. That hasn't played out yet on the show, but it's a TV show and you never know when a show might resort to something crazy. I think it bodes a bit better for Daphne (rather than the uninterested Bay) that she is into sports, so she's got an outlet for physicality. (Bay, on the other hand, does graffiti and fake ID's.) They both have Mars in Sagittarius, which in my experience tends to mean that they're both going to be SUPER interested in travel. They both have Jupiter in Sagittarius, which should be pretty lucky. They also have a Neptune/Uranus conjunction. Saturn is in Pisces.
Looking at the placement of the houses in Bay's chart for certain, most of them are below the horizon. Nothing in the first or second houses, but the Libra stellium is in her third house of communication and siblings. I find this funny considering that she biologically has no siblings, but by adoption she has a brother and Daphne is probably more or less an honorary sibling. The Moon/Pluto conjunction lands in her fourth house-- trouble in the family, indeed. Jupiter is in her fifth house, so she has luck with creativity. The Neptune-Uranus conjunction is in her sixth house, so I'd imagine that could be ... interesting... in her work life. The planet of dreaminess and imagination combined with unusual events should mean she has an interesting art career, even if I doubt she'd get massively famous for it what with most of her planets not as on display as her Leo rising. Saturn is in her eighth house of other people's money. Maybe that's an indicator that the money she grew up with wasn't hers, after all.
I'm going to do an imaginary house placement for Daphne with a Libra rising to see how that plays out. It'd give her the stellium of planets in her twelfth and first house, so she is more publicly prominent than Bay despite Bay's Leo rising. (Indeed, her deafness may make her more noticeable in public.) Venus and the Mars/Pluto conjunction fall into her second house. Maybe the Venus in second means that she'll get money via love-- or that she was the one destined to be a rich girl. Except for the Mars/Pluto kaboom. Jupiter falls into her third house = luck with communication and siblings. Hm. Communication is an issue with her, being deaf and all, but for the most part she seems very skilled at all of the methods she uses to do it. The Neptune-Uranus conjunction would fall in her fourth house, and Saturn would fall into her sixth. I'd imagine Daphne will have a harder time getting a job. As for dreamy + unusual, maybe that describes the home life she grew up in, or the unexpected windfall of turning out to be from rich people?
Anyway, this may all be a lot of bull, but it's kind of fun to think about.
"These are the two faces of Venus and they do not get along. Taurus says “I should be able to look after myself.” Libra says “But I’m not complete without someone else.” Technically, Taurus and Libra form an inconjunct. This is an aspect that joins two signs with so little in common that a huge amount of adjustment is needed for them to get along. So what does that say about the planet that rules these two signs? Loving yourself and loving someone else is not a natural fit.
The search for security (2nd House) needs to start with yourself. You won’t find what you need (2nd House) by projecting desired qualities onto someone else (7th House). The adjustment involves owning (2nd House) those projected qualities (7th House). In other words, think about what you admire/crave most in other people. Now look inside and you’ll find that quality."
That's ... weird.
On the one hand, I'm happy for her. God knows she could use a real boyfriend that she actually like, has feelings for (clearly this was never the case with my dad. Poor dad.). And is an actual boyfriend rather than the psuedo-one she's kind of had for the last few years. As long as he's not a jerk, I am totally cool with having a new stepfather. Though having stepsibs would be... interesting when I never had any of the original sort. Hope they're not jerks!
On the other hand...dude lives in Arizona and we're in NorCal. And he definitely would not be the one who moves in this scenario.
So, yeah. On the one hand I think, "if I move down south, she'll only be 6 hours by car or 45 minutes by plane, that's a lot easier visiting than trying to go back up." On the other hand, I think, if I don't end up moving, my mommy will be very far away and what am I going to do....OH SHIT....
There's also the ol' feeling of "Yeah, my mom'll get married for the second time long before I even have a shot at marrying for the first," but that's no surprise. My cousins in elementary school will probably get married before I do :P
Anyway, of course I want to check the astrology. And at first I'm thinking, "huh, dude has no Pisces or Virgo", which my dad and the guy Mom's been palling around with for years have and she seems to really like since that's her asc/desc axis, "how's that going to..."
Then I went to the karmic astrology. Mom and I have reversed nodes, and this guy has Mars/Neptune on her south node (my north node). She has Venus on her north, so that's some Venus/Mars there. Their composite chart looks like a giant ugh (tons of squares), but if there's karmic bindings... and she's got Saturn loosely square his nodes.
Well, I guess we'll all get along...
She asked me if there was anything going on transitwise for her right now, and tons of planets are going through her seventh house. So there you go.
"Are you seeing this too? I am not talking about, Arizona. I am talking people in your personal lives.
"I know a lot of people (and have a lot of clients) with planets 0-15 Cardinal and if their lives have not already exploded in some craptacular fashion, their tension is palpable.
I don't mean to be full of doom. I do think there are positive ways to use all energy but people who are looking for things to even out and smooth out - well you are not going to get that.
I have said this in a few places: Mars and Saturn and Pluto combined is not something to full with. There is no doilies to be found with this combination and we are going to have these planets mashed for then entire month of April. What we are seeing now is prelude for some of us and if you look around, listen around, read around, it's pretty obvious."
Sigh. Well, so far, this has been my 2011:
(a) New Year's was a buttload of drama 'n crazy because my mom suddenly went off the deep end.
(b) My friend's marriage has suddenly gone drama-tastic. She also had a new job interview right in the middle of this drama and I had to calm her down enough to focus on that for 24 hours.
(c) My apartment got flooded. FOR THE SECOND TIME. At least this time doesn't seem to be nearly as bad as the first, since (a) the flooding only happened for around 2 hours instead of like 12, (b) only flooded 2 out of the 3 main rooms, so when I had to move stuff out it at least could stay in the apartment, (c) this time I have renter's insurance putting me up in a motel, and (d) I probably won't have to be out nearly as long as last time, more like a week or two. But still, how many people have this happen to them in freak upstairs idiot accidents twice? And now I get to worry about if it'll someday happen for a third time just to y'know, be completist.
Yes, that's all in the first 8 days of the year or so. SHEESH.
And right before that, a friend's wife's mom went into hospice.
I have Mercury and Pluto at 14 degrees in cardinal signs, my friend has several planets in Capricorn (including Saturn at 14), her husband has a cardinal moon, my mom has Neptune and Venus in cardinal signs, the friend's wife has moon and Mars in cardinal.
After much debate on the Venus ruler question, she finally did a test for it. I'll be updating this post too.
I tend to think this is a pretty rididculous argument though. Earth is a NEUTRAL PARTY in this thing. We're talking about how the planets go around Earth because we are on it. It should NOT be thrown in as something else to analyze. Ergo, I think Earth shouldn't rule anybody's one sign, thanks. (Speaketh the Taurus who finds this impractical, and I don't think Taurus and Libra are utterly unalike and unable to relate to each other either. If you're gonna go there, why don't you pick on Gemini and Virgo? And even there that isn't utterly out of the question.)