Okay, so I've been told I go for this. Or shall we say, went for this since those days of hormones are over. To which I was all, "FORMER bad boys, thanks." I don't put up well with addictions or anyone going to jail, but god knows my exes ah....Really Got Around and I certainly heard some wacky stories of shit they got up to in the teen years here and there. Meanwhile, I stay out of jail and am generally sober (of course, that's because I can get drunk on an empty stomach in less than a half hour).
So why is that shit? Well, lookie here.
"I’ve had a look through the birth charts of clients and friends who have found themselves in the habit of getting involved with these “bad boys,” and it’s hard to see a definitive astrological cause. However, two patterns do seem to stand out.
1) The “bad boys” in question seem to have major placements that fall in the Twelfth House of the women they get involved with.
2) The women in question seem to have stronger-than-average Mars placements."
Hmmm. Well, I probably qualify for the latter one. I can definitely say that my favorite old celebrity crush qualified for the former, though I wouldn't say that anyone I actually dated IRL did.
I decided to look at an eclipse table and see if any eclipses lined up with significant years for me.
1996 (started dating): Apr 3, 1996 7:07 PM Sun 14 Ari 31 Opposition Moon 14 Lib 31(LE). That one literally kicked off within a few weeks of my dating life starting at age 18, hah. On my Mercury/Pluto/nodes.
1997 (dad got diagnosed with a disease, I graduated high school and went on to college): nothing hitting anything significant on me. Probably hitting on my parents' though because the big thing then was Virgo and Pisces. I don't have any of that, but that's their ascendants/descendants.
1998 (significant relationship): Aug 21, 1998 10:03 PM Sun 28 Leo 48 Conjunct Moon 28 Leo 48(SE)--near my Saturn. Relationship kicked off a few months later and was a very Saturn Return-y (for him) one and me (Saturn transiting 7th).
1999 (relationship ended, started working):
Near to my Mars and Saturn in Leo. Both the relationship ending and the job starting were in fall.
2001 (graduated from college, lost job): June 21, 2001 7:58 AM Sun 0 Can 11 Conjunct Moon 0 Can 11(SE)--hitting around my Jupiter in Cancer. Not that lucky? Graduation happened right before that, got laid off around the end of the year. Around the beginning of 2002 I got another job and relationship at the same time.
June 24, 2002 5:42 PM Sun 3 Can 11 Opposition Moon 3 Cap 11(LE)
I don't think this one really is ah, responsible for any of that, but I should probably mention it. Hits around Jupiter again.
Around the start of 2004, the relationship ended:
May 15, 2003 11:36 PM Sun 24 Tau 53 Opposition Moon 24 Sco 53(LE)
Nov 8, 2003 8:13 PM Sun 16 Sco 13 Opposition Moon 16 Tau 13(LE)
Nov 23, 2003 5:59 PM Sun 1 Sag 14 Conjunct Moon 1 Sag 14(SE)
Around my Venus for the first one, Uranus for the second one and my moon again on the third.
In the later end of 2004, I had wisdom teeth surgery and a flooded apartment that I had to vacate for several months:
May 4, 2004 4:33 PM Sun 14 Tau 42 Opposition Moon 14 Sco 42(LE)
This one was on Uranus.
Oct 27, 2004 11:07 PM Sun 5 Sco 02 Opposition Moon 5 Tau 02(LE)
In the vicinity of my ascendant--this one went on during the apartment/tooth drama time.
In 2005, my dad went into the hospital for the rest of his life.
Apr 24, 2005 6:06 AM Sun 4 Tau 20 Opposition Moon 4 Sco 20(LE)
2007: dad dies, no significant eclipse action going on for me then. Go figure. But again, it was a Pisces/Virgo time going on and that hits my parents more than me.
2012: I have both temporary and permanent job changes going on:
Nov 25, 2011 1:09 AM Sun 2 Sag 37 Conjunct Moon 2 Sag 37(SE)
June 4, 2012 7:11 AM Sun 14 Gem 14 Opposition Moon 14 Sag 14(LE)
Moon and Neptune.
2013: birthday eclipse again around ascendant:
Apr 25, 2013 3:57 PM Sun 5 Tau 45 Opposition Moon 5 Sco 45(LE)
I get way disillusioned and eventually get a car a few months later.
And in October will be...
Oct 8, 2014 6:50 AM Sun 15 Lib 05 Opposition Moon 15 Ari 05(LE)
Oct 23, 2014 5:56 PM Sun 0 Sco 25 Conjunct Moon 0 Sco 25(SE)
Mercury/Pluto/nodes and asccendant/Sun. I wonder what shit that brings on?
Now to be fair, let's look at years where eclipses hit my planets but nothing I remember as being significant happened: 1995 had Uranus and Sun/Ascendant, 2000 had a hit on Mars, 2008 and 2009 had hits on Mars and Saturn, 2010 had a hit on Jupiter, 2011 had a hit on Moon. But now I'm kinda wondering if I just don't remember anything specific. I know a hell of a lot of Teh Dramaz was going on at work from 2008 on, but none of it started to screw with me until around 2011-2012.
Now let's categorize by planet and drama:
Sun/Ascendant: surgery and flooding, dad going into hospital, basically giant emotional drama, car buying: So....not good, overall.
Moon and Venus: dating, probably foreshadowing relationship ending.
Uranus: dating, flood, surgery--not good.
Mercury/Pluto/Nodes: dating, on a good scale.
Saturn: dating and work, but not consistently identifable drama. Plusses and minuses.
Mars: dating and work, but not consistently identifiable drama.
Jupiter: job, dating, but not consistently identifiable drama. Started out good for what I could identify.
Continuing on the theme from the other day...
Libra in your chart will be the area that the transiting North Node will be encouraging you to develop. Your natal Venus (ruler of Libra) will tell you more. Yes, the same Venus that ruled the transiting South Node in Taurus. But now, you’re working with Venus in the context of relationships (Libra) rather than self-preservation (Taurus). It’s not just about you."
I will admit to being stumped by this.
This quote is pretty much me:
"Do you know that anger is frequently the root cause of depression that is not chemical? A person is pissed off, but their anger is turned in. This is not pretty but it is common. “I hate myself!” many depressed people say."
Well, yes. I am angry at myself for going nowhere slowly. I just...don't know where to go with it.
I don't feel like I have much in the way of Mars. I don't mean astrologically--supposedly mine should be a monstrous macho thing, what with it being in the Gauquelin sector and all. I should be a total jock, but frankly, I did not get born with a body that is suited to having major physical prowess. I've spent most of my life doing different forms of dance, but nobody would consider me professionally good (or even close) at any of them due to my lack of leg flexibility. I used to be a bowler, but trust me, I never got to a 300 score and these days I'm better at it on a Wii than anything else IRL. And that's about it.
I dunno.... I don't really have anything to be all "male and thrusting" (oh brother) about in life! I don't mean to "disown," but I don't feel like I HAVE it to own. There's nothing macho and male about me that's coming out to dominate all and sundry. I liked doing self-defense classes back in the day, but those aren't offered any more here. I've pondered doing martial arts as a subsitute, but eventually realized that self-defense kicking and punching was a lot more fun to me than the regimented, uniforms, belt system-type stuff of martial arts sounds. Once in a while I do kickboxing as a substitute for all of that, but I haven't done much of that these days (not thrilled with the current sorta-kickboxing class at the gym now). I don't have that much in the way of macho activities and interests besides that to BE Mars-y about.
*shrug* I get where she's going with that, I just don't have anything to aim at.
"But seriously, i don’t buy that ‘we act like our ascendant early and then do the sun sign’ thing. I mean, there are SO many different aspects of a chart. If you have – for example – Uranus in Scorpio Rising with Mars in Leo square that and on the Midheaven, you know you’re doing that. You’re like a big jungle cat individualistic dakini rocking bit of business."
Well, I have that exact setup she just mentioned and I am all....what am I doing, exactly?!
You know, I'm really tired of hearing how since I have Mars on the MC, I should be an Alpha Male, Big Man On Campus, an athlete, in the military, a Leader Of Men. I'm the dead opposite of an alpha anything.
So I'm a big fan of Switched At Birth, which is rather ridiculously good for a family show. People are sympathetic and mostly sensible and you feel for everybody and it's awesome. I highly recommend it (go look on Hulu, the pilot's online).
Anyway, the recent episode "The Persistence of Memory" was just plain excellent. AND it also featured one of the switched-at-birth characters finding her birth certificate. Of course, Daphne's real birth certificate is actually for Bay, so... it's Bay's birth time and information. The show has stated the two girls have the same birthday, so I'm interested in looking at their birthday. Alas, Daphne's actual birth time hasn't been mentioned yet, so I'll have to guess.
For those who haven't seen the show: Bay Kennish is a brunette teenage artist type. She's tempestuous, dabbles in getting into trouble, and seems to move quickly when it comes to men. She's the one that got raised in a wealthy family but originally came from a poorer one. She's the one whose birth time we'll be looking at. Her birthday twin, Daphne, is the strawberry blonde athletic type. She's generally sweet and more of a people pleaser than Bay, a wee bit of a showoff herself at times, and has been deaf since the age of 3. She was the one born to the rich people, but got raised by a poorer mom.
I totally guessed that Bay must be a Leo rising, and by god, she is! The drama is very obvious with her. (Plus she loves Frida Kahlo. Both she and her biological mom Regina are really into bright colors.) I'd guess Daphne is probably born around 6 a.m., making her a TRIPLE Libra. Both of them are at least double Libras (sun and moon), but Daphne is clearly the one more interested in making sure everyone gets along.
Both of them have a lot of planets in Libra, with a Libra Moon/Chiron conjunction. That says "mommy issues and pain" like nothing else, which totally fits with the swappage. They both have Sun conjunct their Libra North Nodes, which I think bodes well for them learning Libra issues of partnership and cooperation. Certainly both of them pick up love interests left and right and are very attractive girls! Passionate too with Venus in Scorpio. They also have a Mars/Pluto conjunction, which I find kind of nervewracking. That does tend to bring on... well, physical accidents, maybe being a bit of an anger/violence magnet. That hasn't played out yet on the show, but it's a TV show and you never know when a show might resort to something crazy. I think it bodes a bit better for Daphne (rather than the uninterested Bay) that she is into sports, so she's got an outlet for physicality. (Bay, on the other hand, does graffiti and fake ID's.) They both have Mars in Sagittarius, which in my experience tends to mean that they're both going to be SUPER interested in travel. They both have Jupiter in Sagittarius, which should be pretty lucky. They also have a Neptune/Uranus conjunction. Saturn is in Pisces.
Looking at the placement of the houses in Bay's chart for certain, most of them are below the horizon. Nothing in the first or second houses, but the Libra stellium is in her third house of communication and siblings. I find this funny considering that she biologically has no siblings, but by adoption she has a brother and Daphne is probably more or less an honorary sibling. The Moon/Pluto conjunction lands in her fourth house-- trouble in the family, indeed. Jupiter is in her fifth house, so she has luck with creativity. The Neptune-Uranus conjunction is in her sixth house, so I'd imagine that could be ... interesting... in her work life. The planet of dreaminess and imagination combined with unusual events should mean she has an interesting art career, even if I doubt she'd get massively famous for it what with most of her planets not as on display as her Leo rising. Saturn is in her eighth house of other people's money. Maybe that's an indicator that the money she grew up with wasn't hers, after all.
I'm going to do an imaginary house placement for Daphne with a Libra rising to see how that plays out. It'd give her the stellium of planets in her twelfth and first house, so she is more publicly prominent than Bay despite Bay's Leo rising. (Indeed, her deafness may make her more noticeable in public.) Venus and the Mars/Pluto conjunction fall into her second house. Maybe the Venus in second means that she'll get money via love-- or that she was the one destined to be a rich girl. Except for the Mars/Pluto kaboom. Jupiter falls into her third house = luck with communication and siblings. Hm. Communication is an issue with her, being deaf and all, but for the most part she seems very skilled at all of the methods she uses to do it. The Neptune-Uranus conjunction would fall in her fourth house, and Saturn would fall into her sixth. I'd imagine Daphne will have a harder time getting a job. As for dreamy + unusual, maybe that describes the home life she grew up in, or the unexpected windfall of turning out to be from rich people?
Anyway, this may all be a lot of bull, but it's kind of fun to think about.